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One of the main reasons I got the was because it came with a trapeze tailpiece and I wanted to put a Bigsby on it. I'm not familiar with the GFS Xtrem. Bigsby On An Epi Casino? With at least a few tweaks, I think the Dot Studio is one of the best values out there. I'm wondering if this would add sustain to the guitar. BBB , Jan 10, It is the exact same thing sold in cheaper packaging. I didn't want to have have parts of the tailpiece holes showing. What do you think? What you like, what sounds good to you, and sometimes maybe even what's available in the moment did Epiphone perhaps have B70's sitting in a warehouse? Also, has anybody here used the Xtrem? This is the reason why I might be leaning toward the B I was wondering why vbar mentioned not using a trem with a tension bar like the B70 on a hollowbody? The Xtrem FT floating tremolo on my guitar works very well. Epi even factory installed it on the Casino and we all know about the Beatles well most us old timers anyway. I've got the Xtrem on another hollowbody. OMB , Jan 11, So far, I found that the B7 is the popular choice. I know in the 70's when I worked on guitars at a music store, I saw a few hollow bodies that had aftermarket tremolo units installed on them that caused warping to the top of the guitar by guys that used them aggressively. In response to your question about a B30 on a hollowbody, yes, Epiphone has had success with it on the Swingster, pictured at left. I currently have a Bigsby on one hollowbody, and one on a semi hollow. On a semi-hollow body, there is a solid block of wood inside to support the tremolo units. Personally, I don't have any issues with it, but have seen it happen to other players. Given the mass of the Xtrem vs. A hollowbody guitar is a much different animal than a semi hollow. I also like the idea of almost half price so I'll have to check out the WD version. Keep in mind, it is just the thin bracing under the top wood for support on a true hollow body. I'm of the opinion that a large chunk of metal that you screw down to the top of a hollowbodied instrument is going to have a large impact on how that instrument sounds. Also has anybody else had success with B3 on a hollowbody before? One of the few guitars I own that remains unmolested, as it's just right for me the way it is. I have an Xtrem on one of my hollows and a bunch of Bigsby's. I have Bigsbys on my Sheraton and Dot and I love them with the mod. I agree with Dimitri. I think it would look pretty good on a Casino. There are certainly a lot of opinions as to whether that's 'correct' or not, but correct is probably not important. Honestly I doubt it would change sustain much on a guitar with a trapeze tailpiece. I started using them after my first Agile, an AL I put a B70 on it and the angle from the saddles to the bottom of the front roller was too steep and some of the strings hit on the back of the bridge causing the guitar to go out of tune all the time. Note- there is very little break angle over the bridge on the Swingster. I have Wilkinson roller bridges on all of my guitars with Bigsbys, except the m in the avatar. If it were me, I wouldn't risk it. I do believe I'm gonna try the floating Xtrem or B30 first and take it from there Thx guys I'll post with my results. Stig , Jan 12, {/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} I am interested in the B3 and I'm not ruling out the Xtrem floating style. This was before the Vibra-Mate was available. A B70 with a flat handle requires more effort not necessarily a bad thing, it just feels different , but is appropriate for the semi hollow. It's a B - that's what comes factory-installed if you get one stock. THat is probably a little bit of snobbery on my part. It came with Graph Tech saddles. The B30 is very smooth, responsive, and controllable, requiring a light touch. The guitar is full hollowbody if it is a Casino, so that is a limiting factor. But that's just my opinion. I've actually been debating putting one on my Elitist. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Discussion in ' Guitars ' started by dkal24 , Jan 10, Log in. There's just something about a Bigsby on a Casino I like. You could use a B3 but the break angle of the neck may cause the strings to pop out of the saddles when you use it. A Guitar Forum. The handle is a nice heavier piece, good design, I like it. The Xtrem is OK but it just isn't a Bigsby. An aggressive style may well benefit from a tension bar. On a related note, I think the roller bridges seat the string a little better and may help, also. You don't want a unit with a tension bar on a Casino. I have heard of some people having issues with not enough break angle which makes the strings come off the bridge and fell loose. Other roller bridges wouldn't do it. It's very close to the B30 as far as feel, just slightly different probably due mainly to the axle design of the Bigsby and the hinge design of the Xtrem. I have that for my Tele but haven't installed yet because I'm gonna get a Vibramate so as to not put screwholes in the guitar. OMB , Jan 10, Mickey likes this. As far as break angle, I would venture to say that a person's playing style would be a big factor in having strings come off of the bridge. Gather all the info you can, get what you think will work best for you, and go play your Casino for all it's worth. This one has the Xtrem FT mounted, which I like just fine. That's the basis for my previous statement of not wanting a unit with a tension bar, which requires being screwed down to the top, on a Casino. It could be a month or so down the road though. I'm pretty sure I want a Bigsby. Well, it's obviously just my two cents, which may or may not be worth that amount, you'll have to decide that for yourself. Figured i'd add this, According to the Vibramate website they don't have a unit for an Epi Casino. Reddog3d , Jan 11, Mickey , Jan 11, I think I love me that Casino guitar. In the center is the semi hollow Epiphone Dot Studio with a B70 that's been added by me.